[[ I think it’s just Shisui quoting Danzo, not necessarily agreeing with him.He doesn’t have much time to talk, either, but he is relaying the important information to Itachi. IE, Danzo attacked me, here is why, I still think you have a shot so here’s my remaining eye. It’s not necessarily agreeing with Danzo, otherwise…why hand him his only eye? 

Even in the event he had tried to see it from Danzo’s POV, Danzo’s explanation was bullshit.

Danzo only killed Shisui because Shisui’s plan would have worked.

And Danzo needs the clan to die so he can harvest them for their eyes, so any plan that actually results in the clan being alive needs to be stopped immediately. Danzo never wanted the clan to just accept their fate living in the district and being KMPF Officers for all of their lives, if this was true then Shisui’s plan was perfect. No more rebellion, no more fighting. The village technically wins because the Uchiha aren’t fighting their “place” anymore.

But they aren’t conveniently corpses whom you can loot for eyeballs for your crazy Hashirama arm, so they have to go. 

Danzo just saw them as eyeballs with troublesome bodies attached. 

Tai pitches in…

tai-Today at 2:39 PM
yeah no LOL Shisui very well knew that their plan would work. What he didn’t factor in was that Konoha would do something to STOP it. he likely believed that Konoha would be happy if shit got settled, even temporarily. it would still guarantee them some extra time to try a different approach. shisui was sure that his intentions would be understood clearly, and only found out too late that despite danzo’s harHARR about always doing what’s best for Konoha, he’s actually jsut a selfish, hateful, paranoid fucker.

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[[ I don’t think so, if Danzo was not present (given I’m sure this is what this ask is in response to.)

Not to say the Uchiha didn’t have grief to settle, given they’re still barred from holding specific kinds of office, but without Danzo restricting them to the district, monitoring them, and riling them up, I don’t think anything close to a war would’ve ever began. 

There is still the issue of Obito, but Obito and Danzo are not connected.

Itachi might not have become ANBU (which there is nothing wrong with, given Danzo only wanted to give him the position to use him), but I believe the situation would have eventually become public in a good way. With Hiruzen, Homura, and Koharu…(is that his name…) getting old and possibly dying, their old, anti-Uchiha ways would hopefully die with them.  ]]

[[ Danzo also knew that Hiruzen had a soft spot for him, due to the both of them being teammates in the past. Danzo knows Hiruzen will complain and call him out but  he won’t actually take real action. He will steamroll Hiruzen in the end. But I’m not making excuses for Hiruzen, because he knew this as well. He actually just let it happen. 

There is only one passage in which Hiruzen calls out Danzo’s actions for what they are– pure discrimination without reason. It’s not the district, it’s not the cameras, which Hiruzen knows about, it’s…the budget cut. This is the only time Hiruzen gets openly angry with Danzo, citing he only wants the budget cut to piss the Uchiha off. Then Danzo turns it around with the police not needing that much leeway since ANBU apparently do most of that work, and if the Uchiha had no grudge/plans they…would just accept the budget cut? And then Hiruzen accepts 30% instead of 40%.

So 30%, specifically to piss the Uchiha off is fine, but 40% is where the actual racism comes in. Sure…

Even in the end of the novel Hiruzen makes a pointless move. He knows it’s pointless. He strips Danzo of his title and “disbands” his organization, far, far too late, and even tells Itachi to his face it’s likely meaningless because Danzo’s still within the village and will likely operate ROOT in secret.

Literally zero plans to actually hunt Danzo down and make sure he has no power, Hiruzen already accepts that Danzo’s just gonna do what he wants. 

Thanks Hiruzen. ]]

[[ No, because Danzo wanted them dead. 

Danzo wanted the Uchiha clan dead long before the Kyuubi became a convenient scapegoat to ostracize them. 

Had Danzo not been a part of it, the Uchiha clan would have gotten to rebuild all of their old homes prior to the attack. There would be no district, there would be no cameras, there would be no Itachi being stalked since he was 7.

I’m not saying the situation was perfect before– given the KMPF still existed and Uchiha were legally forbidden from certain positions, but the anger wouldn’t have boiled over so quickly. 

Danzo never wanted to talk, and he was even able to manipulate Hiruzen into not talking. I hate Hiruzen too, but maybe he would’ve been more amenable to speaking with Fugaku if he wasn’t constantly making excuses for Danzo still being on the Council (KNOWING HE DISLIKED UCHIHA), or just accepting whatever Danzo wanted with minimal fighting. 

Danzo is 100% to blame for the Uchiha massacre. Had Danzo not existed to interfere, they’d be alive. ]]

[[ ….I just googled that, and I’d say maybe.

Up until 699 I would say no…she wants Sasuke to like her, but she doesn’t think that he’s in love with her. 

from 699 and with the novels, I’d say I think she has that. Because a lot of her content focuses on the forehead poke, “I’ll see you later”, and Sakura thinking in terms of how “far along” their relationship is. 

The definition also lists excessive sexual desire, pfft. 

It’s certainly worth discussing. ]]